Down the Wormhole
Exploring the relationship between science and religion
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Wednesday Mar 18, 2020
Wednesday Mar 18, 2020
Episode 30
What is COVID-19? What is SARS-CoV-2? What is being done to stop this pandemic and what can we do to stay safe? We are joined by Dr Daniel Janies who is on the front lines of this crisis and graciously offered us an hour of his time to answer our burning questions as well as some of yours from our Facebook page.
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Show Notes
Articles and resources from Dr Janies
https://cci.uncc.edu/directory/daniel-janies
https://janieslab.github.io/index.html
https://brc.uncc.edu/news/2020-02-26/what-do-we-need-know-about-coronavirus-cov-emergent-wuhan-china-long-and-short-terms
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/congressional-testimony/hearing-emerging-disease-threat-how-us-responding-covid-19-novel-coronavirus-03032020
https://www.medtechdive.com/news/fda-chief-warns-of-supply-pressure-on-reagents-for-coronavirus-tests/573999/
NPR story about the Coronavirus spillover from bats
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/20/807742861/new-research-bats-harbor-hundreds-of-coronaviruses-and-spillovers-arent-rare
Statement from Labcorp
https://www.labcorp.com/information-labcorp-about-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19
Before you share to social media or get angry about something you read there, be sure to fact check! The truth is often far more complicated and boring than the memes would have us believe.
https://www.snopes.com/collections/new-coronavirus-collection/
Wednesday Mar 11, 2020
Wednesday Mar 11, 2020
Episode 29
Do you enjoy long walks on the beach and the warm sand between your toes? Have you ever wondered where that sand comes from and if someone has a plan to stop the ocean from taking it back? How are coastal cities preparing for the inevitable sea-level rise, and why should we who don't live anywhere near the ocean care?
In the final installment of our Climate Connections series, Ian takes us for a long walk on the beach as we discuss climate refugees, sand mining, effective storytelling, and whether there is room for hope in the coming years.
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Show Notes
Lots of articles!
Articles about impact of sea level risehttps://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/sea-level-rise/
Smithsonian Sea Level Rise explanation: https://ocean.si.edu/through-time/ancient-seas/sea-level-rise
https://sealevelrise.org/
Resources for seeing projections Surging Seas (affiliated with Climate Central): https://sealevel.climatecentral.org/
Surging Seas Risk Finder: https://riskfinder.climatecentral.org/
Surging Seas Map options: https://sealevel.climatecentral.org/maps/
NOAA Sea Level Rise Viewer: https://coast.noaa.gov/slr/
Articles about NC (both address 2012 sea level rise debacle)https://www.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article234385422.html
Background on sea level rise debacle from 2012: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/14/scientists-warned-of-rising-sea-levels-in-north-carolina-republican-lawmakers-shelved-their-recommendations/
https://www.coastalreview.org/2019/10/ncs-next-sea-level-rise-study-to-eye-2100/
Article about Boston (from 2/19/2020) https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2020/02/19/boston-prepares-rising-seas-climate-change/?arc404=true
Stephen Colbert clip: http://www.cc.com/video-clips/w6itwj/the-colbert-report-the-word---sink-or-swim
Shishmaref, AK : https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/29/us/sutter-shishmaref-esau-tragedy/index.html and https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/18/490519540/threatened-by-rising-seas-an-alaskan-village-decides-to-relocate
More on the United Fruit Company and the US Government crushing Central America
https://medium.com/s/story/timeline-us-intervention-central-america-a9bea9ebc148
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/country-company-1954-guatemalan-coup-support-united-fruit.html
Books
Amitav Ghosh “The Great Derangement” : https://www.amazon.com/Great-Derangement-Climate-Unthinkable-Lectures/dp/022652681X
Kim Stanley Robinson "New York 2140" : https://www.amazon.com/New-York-2140-Stanley-Robinson/dp/0316262315/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1J4MX2BOHBEDR&keywords=new+york+2041&qid=1583896793&sprefix=new+york+20%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-1
Wednesday Mar 04, 2020
Wednesday Mar 04, 2020
Episode 28
Do religious beliefs affect attitudes about climate change? Are people who believe we are in the "End Times" less likely to care about long term environmental impacts? What do the polling numbers indicate? The results might surprise you!
Remember to send us your wildest, pie-in-the-sky plan to stop climate change, and you could one BILLION dollars (of totally fake money). Email us at admin@downthewormhole.com or post it to our Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram.
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produced by Zack Jacksonmusic by Zack Jackson and Barton Willis
Show Notes
Lots of articles to read!
Pew Stats from 2015: https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2015/10/22/religion-and-views-on-climate-and-energy-issues/
Religious Statements on Climate Change: https://www.interfaithpowerandlight.org/religious-statements-on-climate-change/
Pew Stats on Catholic Division: https://www.pewforum.org/2015/06/16/catholics-divided-over-global-warming/
Katharine Hayhoe: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/opinion/sunday/climate-change-evangelical-christian.html
Pew Stats from 2010: https://www.pewforum.org/2010/09/17/few-say-religion-shapes-immigration-environment-views/
“Left Behind” series : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind ; http://leftbehind.com/
7 Dispensations : https://www.compellingtruth.org/seven-dispensations.html
Ozone layer hole : https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2019/2019-ozone-hole-is-the-smallest-on-record-since-its-discovery [and a small bit of history : https://www.newsweek.com/nasa-hole-earths-ozone-layer-finally-closing-humans-did-something-771922 ]
Judges are more impartial after a meal : https://www.wired.com/2011/04/judges-mental-fatigue/
Dear Hank and John podcast : https://www.npr.org/podcasts/735467446/dear-hank-john
Peacock ore (aka Bornite) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bornite and as a crystal : https://www.crystals-online.co.uk/properties-pages/peacock-ore/
Y2K and apocalypse :
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/y2k-apocalypse
https://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2020/12/29/apocalypse-then-when-y2k-didnt-lead-to-the-end-of-civilization/#534b3e38475c
[From a believer in the immediate coming rapture : https://daniel11truth.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAqNPyBRCjARIsAKA-WFzh4El5Tz8h5Sivrdoeot6zdAjqKbLTk-ZSPkS0LJJWQMBWpnawv6oaAuWgEALw_wcB ]
Ezekiel 38
Hebrew and English: https://www.sefaria.org/Ezekiel.38?lang=bi
As proof of apocalypse : https://www.apocalypsesoon.org/xfile-10.html
Wednesday Feb 26, 2020
Wednesday Feb 26, 2020
Episode 27
In part 3 of our Climate Connections series, Adam tries to break us out of our conventional ways of thinking by introducing the concept of play, and forcing us to imagine how we would solve the climate crisis if we had zero limitations.
How about guerrilla gardening, benevolent-ish dictatorships, billion dollar grants, the end of big cities, the return of generational living, solar farming the desert, or farting salt mines?
Send us your wildest, pie-in-the-sky plan to stop climate change, and you could one BILLION dollars (of totally fake money). Email us at admin@downthewormhole.com or post it to our Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram.
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Show Notes
Favorite PE game
Adam-Scooter (found here: https://www.gophersport.com/pe/scooters/sst-scooters) and games (found here: https://www.gophersport.com/blog/6-scooter-games-pe/ )
Kendra--Parachute, games found here: https://www.playparachutes.com/pagaac.html
Rachael -- Tetherball, what it is : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetherball (scene from Napoleon Dynamite : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azSxYbFovWo )
Zack -- none (here’s one story as to why some kids dislike p.e. : https://education.penelopetrunk.com/2013/05/20/forced-gym-makes-kids-hate-exercise/ )
Adam’s book “Living with Tiny Aliens” https://www.amazon.com/Living-Tiny-Aliens-Anthropocene-Groundworks-ebook-dp-B07WWJP3FP/dp/B07WWJP3FP/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1582659303
Augustine and his idea that children are sinners : http://www.stephenhicks.org/2011/12/02/augustine-on-why-babies-are-evil/
Solar power in Sahara : http://theconversation.com/should-we-turn-the-sahara-desert-into-a-huge-solar-farm-114450
Nuclear power, pros-cons: https://greenliving.lovetoknow.com/Advantages_and_Disadvantages_of_Nuclear_Energy
Gen 2 reactors:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/09/leslie-dewan-explorer-moments-nuclear-energy/
New energy storage ideas:
https://www.wired.com/2016/05/forget-elons-batteries-fix-grid-rock-filled-train-hill/
Wednesday Feb 19, 2020
Wednesday Feb 19, 2020
Episode 26
In part 2 of our Climate Connections miniseries, Rachael serves up a heaping helping of hope in the face of potentially the greatest crisis the human race has ever encountered. Can her immovable optimism stand firm against Adam's unstoppable despair? Will a realistic way forward emerge in the aftermath? Grab some popcorn and roasted crickets. This one is fun.
(Zack note: I recorded my part from the passenger seat of my station wagon on a family trip, so you will hear my toddler yelling for food periodically. Lunch is important yall!)
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Show Notes
Favorite Tree
Rachael--Aspen: https://www.nationalforests.org/blog/tree-profile-aspen-so-much-more-than-a-tree
Kendra--Rainbow eucalyptus: https://mymodernmet.com/rainbow-eucalyptus-tree/
Ian--live oak: https://www.arborday.org/trees/treeguide/treedetail.cfm?itemID=876
Zack--box elder: https://www.thoughtco.com/introduction-to-the-boxelder-tree-1343340
Adam--one particular elm
Bark beetle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_pine_beetle
Beetle kill pine furniture: https://sears-trostel.com/blog/13657/Beetle-Kill-Blue-Stain-Pine-Lumber-in-Fort-Collins
Food
Who owns the land: https://thecounter.org/who-really-owns-american-farmland/
CO2 animal production: https://ourworldindata.org/food-choice-vs-eating-local?fbclid=IwAR0fMG7sySLwJO7FAjbp7Wix1uy8RAsLci-IOMLZlYxzcxNbnHxV7MRgAIU
Americans love their meat: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-chart-proves-americans-love-their-meat-2016-08-15
Food recommendations in American diet: https://www.meatinstitute.org/index.php?ht=d/sp/i/47465/pid/47465
We ate a record amount in 2018: https://www.meatinstitute.org/index.php?ht=d/sp/i/47465/pid/47465
World consumption of beef (note how many countries eat far less than we do) https://beef2live.com/story-world-beef-consumption-per-capita-ranking-countries-0-111634
We are the Weather: saving the world begins at breakfast by Jonathan Safran Foer https://www.amazon.com/We-Are-Weather-Saving-Breakfast/dp/0374280002
Recycling
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/climate/recycling-wrong-mistakes.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/climate/recycling-landfills-plastic-papers.html
https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/recycling6.htm
“Star Thrower” by Loren Eiseley wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star_Thrower
Babies in the river story: https://www.uua.org/re/tapestry/youth/call/workshop1/171686.shtml
Equality/equity/justice: https://www.icafoodshelf.org/blog/2017/11/15/equity-vs-equality-vs-justice-how-are-they-different
Creation Care Alliance: https://creationcarealliance.org/
Better clothing: https://qz.com/823607/pro-tips-for-buying-clothes-that-will-last-years-not-weeks/
A whole book on the subject https://www.amazon.com/How-Break-Fast-Fashion-guilt-free-ebook/dp/B07WH5C7XD
Wednesday Feb 12, 2020
Wednesday Feb 12, 2020
Episode 25
If you could save the world simply by changing the way you eat, would you do it? Is fake meat the future of food or is it a fad for rich people? Why are we so afraid of eating bugs? Why are we so bad at living out our values unless they are convenient? All these questions and more as Zack introduces part 1 of our Climate Connections miniseries in which each host takes a week to explain their own personal connection to the climate crisis.
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Show Notes
Comfort foods
Zack: TastyKake: https://www.tastykake.com/
Kendra: Reese puffs cereal: https://cereals.generalmills.com/products/reeses-puffs/
Ian: milk chocolate, especially milka: https://germandelistore.com/milka/?p=1
Adam: mashed potatoes: (best mashed potatoes, but also comes with meatloaf recipe) https://smittenkitchen.com/2017/02/tomato-glazed-meatloaves-with-brown-butter-mashed-potatoes/
Rachael: brownies: https://smittenkitchen.com/2012/08/my-favorite-brownies/
History
Last name “Jackson”
https://www.facinghistory.org/reconstruction-era/changing-names
https://www.nytimes.com/1998/02/19/news/among-blacks-washington-ranks-as-the-top-surname.html
https://www.amazon.com/Slaves-Family-Edward-Ball/dp/0374534454/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&keywords=slaves+in+the+family&qid=1513302146&s=books&sr=1-1
Jefferson quote, hold a wolf’s ears https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/famous-jefferson-quotes
Quakers and abolition: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17843552
Industry (cotton) and the continuation of southern slavery: https://www.ushistory.org/us/22b.asp
1 Tim 1:15, explanation of “chief of all sinners” https://doctrine.org/paul-chief-of-sinners
“Historical roots of our ecological crisis” By Lynn White 1967: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/155/3767/1203
Edible insects and Human Evolution by Dr. Julie Lesnik: https://upf.com/book.asp?id=9780813056999
Food
Impossible food: https://impossiblefoods.com/
Vox article criticizing meatless-meat trend:
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/10/7/20880318/meatless-meat-mainstream-backlash-impossible-burger
Patrick Brown TEDmed Talk (2015): https://www.tedmed.com/talks/show?id=529958
New Yorker article: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/09/30/can-a-burger-help-solve-climate-change
Grass-fed vs. grain fed for environmentalism: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/08/13/746576239/is-grass-fed-beef-really-better-for-the-planet-heres-the-science?fbclid=IwAR2Mgkudmkq9mH5RfqhsnhjP-qG1h-N3vbDGuanT2472FLB4VP9-dC8gRvY
Farming in America stats: https://www.fb.org/newsroom/fast-facts
How many farms are there: https://www.statista.com/statistics/196114/top-10-us-states-by-number-of-farms/
*note: considered a farm if sells >$1,000 in agriculture in 1yr.
General other food articles:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/30/dining/climate-change-food-eating-habits.html
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aa7541
https://theconversation.com/five-ways-the-meat-on-your-plate-is-killing-the-planet-76128
http://css.umich.edu/publication/beyond-meats-beyond-burger-life-cycle-assessment-detailed-comparison-between-plant-based
https://www.fcrn.org.uk/projects/grazed-and-confused
Entomophagy!
https://medium.com/cleantech-rising/the-future-of-insect-based-protein-82b92ddb2057
https://massivesci.com/articles/eating-bugs-insect-protein-entomophagy-food-agriculture/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/15/edible-insect-save-planet-global-warming-tasty-trendy
Wednesday Feb 05, 2020
Wednesday Feb 05, 2020
Episode 24
We finish up our series on human origins by asking "Who are my people?"
That simple question will lead us to question every facet of our lives and how we interact with life on Earth. It will force us to face our relationship with animals, our self-identity, our sense of purpose, and our various privileges. It will also lead us to ancient bathroom graffiti, songwriting whales, and a hope for humanity.
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Show Notes
Favorite table-top games
Kendra: Balderdash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balderdash
Zack: DixIt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixit_(card_game)
Ian: Cards Against Humanity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cards_Against_Humanity
Rachael: Cribbage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cribbage
“Game for Good Christians” : https://www.agameforgoodchristians.com/about/
General conversation points
Who is Lucy, the Australopithecus afarensis skeleton: https://iho.asu.edu/about/lucys-story and here: http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141127-lucy-fossil-revealed-our-origins
The Dimetrodon is NOT a dinosaur: https://www.thoughtco.com/things-to-know-dimetrodon-1093785
Elizabeth Warren and a DNA test: https://www.factcheck.org/2018/10/the-facts-on-elizabeth-warrens-dna-test/
How dairy farms work: https://modernfarmer.com/2014/03/real-talk-milk/
Orca-pod helping feed humans and other facts: https://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/blog/killer-whale-avoids-eating-people-helped-19th-century-whalers-became-public-enemy-number-one/
Book, “When Elephants Weep” : https://www.amazon.com/When-Elephants-Weep-Emotional-Animals/dp/0385314280
Answers in Genesis, What it means to be human: https://answersingenesis.org/human-evolution/what-makes-us-human/what-does-it-mean-to-be-human/
Humpback whale cultural songs: https://medium.com/@dealville/whales-synchronize-their-songs-across-oceans-and-theres-sheet-music-to-prove-it-b1667f603844
3 pages-a-day journal : https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/oct/03/morning-pages-change-your-life-oliver-burkeman
Graffiti in Pompeii : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_graffiti
and http://www.pompeiana.org/Resources/Ancient/Graffiti%20from%20Pompeii.htm
and https://kashgar.com.au/blogs/history/the-bawdy-graffiti-of-pompeii-and-herculaneu
Wednesday Jan 29, 2020
Wednesday Jan 29, 2020
Episode 23
We are joined by author, professor, and host of the podcast, "The Bible for Normal People", Dr Pete Enns as we ask the question, "If humans evolved, what do we do with Adam and Eve?"
For many people, this is the main reason why they cannot seriously entertain human evolution. To do so would seemingly fly in the face of the veracity of scripture. If Adam is just a myth, does the whole thing fall apart? Pete doesn't think so, and neither do we. Join us as we learn to think about the Bible like the people who wrote the Bible and discover that these archaic stories still have a lot to teach us.
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Show Notes
Most interesting thing in your room:
Ian, wine tap:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-08/your-next-hotel-room-might-have-wine-on-tap
Kendra’s vision board
Adam had bobble heads: martin luther: https://www.missionalwear.com/martin-luther-bobblehead and Katie von bora (Martin’s wife) https://oldlutheran.com/products/katie-luther-bobble-head-doll
Rachael, full talmud, and why (to study a page a day): https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/9-things-to-know-about-the-daf-yomi-daily-page-of-talmud/
Zack, lime (orange?) tree, which as it turns out, can be hard to tell the difference: https://www.gardenguides.com/129997-difference-between-orange-lime-trees.html
Pete, House of Lannister scotch: https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/47810/lagavulin-9-year-old-game-of-thrones-house-lannister
All about our guest, Pete Enns:
Podcast, the Bible for normal people: https://thebiblefornormalpeople.podbean.com/
Books including “Sin of Certainty” and “Evolution of Adam” : https://peteenns.com/books/books-for-normal-people/
Someone wrote a review of “Evolution of Adam” and this is Pete’s response: https://peteenns.com/spinning-our-wheels-a-response-to-a-review-of-the-evolution-of-adam-with-apologies-to-those-with-a-500-word-1-6-minute-internet-attention-span/
The challenges of reading the Bible: https://peteenns.com/11-recurring-mistake-evangelicals-make-evolution-debate/
Bible:
What was the Reformation? https://www.history.com/topics/reformation/reformation
What is the Shulchan Arukh? https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-shulhan-arukh/
Romans 5 quote: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+5%3A12-21&version=NIV